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Post by Grom Hellscream on Nov 14, 2014 0:22:26 GMT -5
1st of all, I would like to point out that the rules are that you must use at least 10 logs to scale up a stone wall, however, it does not say that they must be touching each other, and that should be clarified.
That being set aside, (as it does not have anything to do with the reason why i was banned),
I was banned from the server for "breaking the rules", when i did not.
There is one instance when i was caught scaling up a stone wall using logs, and the screenshot shown does show that they are mine. However, this act was caught in the moment as it was happening, as in i was placing the logs and dragging them from a nearby forest at the time, so i did not have 10 logs Y.E.T, however i was going to.
Aside from that, there is ANOTHER claim that i scaled up the same wall in the same way on a day prior to this one, however there is ABSOLUTELY no proof whatsoever that the person who committed this atrocious act was indeed me, my esteemed and revered self, and i hope that you review my post with vigor and good thought, and undo this ban that has been placed upon me with unrighteousness.
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Post by Rookkii on Nov 14, 2014 8:56:08 GMT -5
as far as i can see you have not been banned...you may have been kicked off the server yesterday for a time, but i am not showing any bans on your account..
that being said i have had numerous complaints and am investigating multiple screenshots about you specifically.
if, and i say if, you are not breaking the rules, you are trying to skirt the limit of what is acceptable on the server.
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Post by Grom Hellscream on Nov 14, 2014 16:38:59 GMT -5
I wasn't specifically trying to skirt any limits, i was doing what i believe to be allowed ( using 10 logs on a stone wall )
It was also rather strange how the people who caught me were people who lived completely across the map, and i was at their base running circle around them as they tried to kill me. It was weird because i don't see how when i prayed to teleport home, i walked to the wall that i was going to make a staircase up and those 2 were there. I thought it was weird considering they do not live there and had no reason to go there.
Also i assumed that i was banned because the last time i was kicked by an admin it was a ban as well on a different server ( It was for something i did not know there were rules for, and the admin was abusive anyways, spawned loot and took favorites )
I suppose that if i am not banned then i thank you anyways :{D>
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Post by Redgismo on Nov 15, 2014 17:32:36 GMT -5
This is what I gather after reading the forums and quietly observing the global chat on this server. The reality of it if you oppose the Goblins prepare to be banned as one of them more often than not mention something with the word ban in it if things didn't go in there favor. Only the Goblins and friends are allowed to combat log and get away with it. Only the Goblins can have the benefit of Admin's working in there favor. Only Goblins and friends need obviously dismissible and non conclusive evidence to ban players.
Now allowing these floating logs which is obviously an exploit? Oh yeah its most likely because most players on the server built walls straight away and the goblins couldn't get in. Then someone with an imagination finds a way to get in with logs in a manner that was still within the rules but a Goblin and the Admin didn't like it regardless if the player was following the rules. As you can read , the player is considered accused of taking advantage of the rule by walking the fine line.
So in conclusion these are the draw backs to a player owned server. The players that come to the server are the sheep for the wolves to play with to do as they please. In time a wipe due to the lack of players because of the unfairness and toxic environment the goblins and admins bring. If you rise up and give any sort of competition say hi to an admin hammer. You say don't exploit in your rules but what happens if obviously admin rights are exploited? The answer is for us to shut up and leave if we don't like it. Also using profanity in the rules of your server and responses as an admin already sets the low expectations and baseline for this server.
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Post by jivegoblin on Nov 15, 2014 19:17:23 GMT -5
I guess I'll chime in here. First off, Grom was not banned. I kicked him from the server for that night due to the following. The night before I specifically told grom in chat to go read the rules when he was attacking someone(I don't remember who at this point) and they were complaining in chat. I assumed he was new and told him to go read the rules and that was that. During the next night I was in admin camera mode and was watching the incident. I watched him only use 5 logs. I then began to get messages from 4 or 5 different people(none of whom are allied with the goblins I might add) complaining about it. Before I knew what was going on there was drama fest kicking up in chat. So due to the fact I told him specifically the night before to read the rules and him and other parties arguing in chat, I made the decision to simply kick him from the server for the night to keep the situation from degenerating further. Grom has since been back on the server and as far as I can tell there hasn't been any further issues.
As far as the log rule and its origins. It was put in place like that to make it HARDER for the "GOBLINS" to raid the other major camp before the wipe.
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Post by Rookkii on Nov 15, 2014 20:13:15 GMT -5
ill chime in as well...ive said this before and i guess it takes a while to sink in but the admins are not only admins...they are players as well. if you dont like the idea of players being admins and player owned and run servers then yes...FUCK OFF. I provide this server to the community so that they can have a place to play with others. we also try to provide some kind of order on the server as on many others there are no active admins at all... So again if you dont like the rules we have or disagree with how we have decided to manage the server, Dont play here.
ill also have you know that since purchasing the server i have not even created a character to play on...i have only been an admin. mainly because of people that think there should be no rules and grief or exploit constantly.
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Post by Redgismo on Nov 15, 2014 21:26:35 GMT -5
ill chime in as well...ive said this before and i guess it takes a while to sink in but the admins are not only admins...they are players as well. if you dont like the idea of players being admins and player owned and run servers then yes...FUCK OFF. I provide this server to the community so that they can have a place to play with others. we also try to provide some kind of order on the server as on many others there are no active admins at all... So again if you dont like the rules we have or disagree with how we have decided to manage the server, Dont play here. ill also have you know that since purchasing the server i have not even created a character to play on...i have only been an admin. mainly because of people that think there should be no rules and grief or exploit constantly. Ok Jivegoblin so you kicked Grom after you told him to read the rules, rules that he didnt break. Therefore you judged him guilty until proven innocent. Got it. As for you Rookkii thank you for proving my opinions to be now facts about how you run your server. First off you continue showing your lack of respect, patience, and leadership just to name a few with your constant profanity with most of anything you write. Also an "Admin" can refrain from using Admin rights. Using admin rights to make things clearly creates an unbalance, advantage, and a form of exploiting. We all know how the Keep was built and land terraformed in no time flat. Therefore with your F*** OFF comment you only proven your immaturity and that you just made the server available to the community so your buddies can have some sheep to grief and abuse. So anyone smart to read through your words you basically wanted to say Admins/Goblins are above the rules, they can grief and exploit as they see fit. If you dont like it dont play here. There is no doubt that you server is declining already. So save everyone some time and close the server just for your buddies so you can grief and abuse yourselfs. It would be greatly appreciated. Thank you |
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Post by Jarl Lerp on Nov 15, 2014 22:35:33 GMT -5
Im guessing you are from the green village?
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Post by Jarl Lerp on Nov 15, 2014 22:58:42 GMT -5
As far as a keep going up that quickly, Ive shaped about 1200 granite by myself in about 5 hours, when they built the medium one they had about 4-5 shaping. The only thing you've proven is to be a sore loser after being caught with your hand in the cookie jar.
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Post by Redgismo on Nov 16, 2014 8:45:33 GMT -5
As far as a keep going up that quickly, Ive shaped about 1200 granite by myself in about 5 hours, when they built the medium one they had about 4-5 shaping. The only thing you've proven is to be a sore loser after being caught with your hand in the cookie jar. Jarl Lerp, key word is "observe" if you took the time to read. You are way off base here. So much so that this is as far as I entertain your insignificant and stereotyping reply. |
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Post by Rookkii on Nov 16, 2014 9:10:41 GMT -5
Red, your right the "FUCK OFF" comment was uncalled for and inappropriate, and i apologize. you have to understand that by hosting this server im not out for some kind of monetary gain, i simply provide it because i enjoy the game and want to have a nice community for people to play on. that being said your obviously gonna believe whatever you want to believe, but all i can tell you is that there has been no abuse of the admin powers on the server. whether you believe it or not is up to you. and if you think the keep at the goblins camp was because they got assistance you are greatly mistaken.
when that keep was built the only person on the server with admin powers was me. and as i stated i have yet to play on the server other than dealing with admin issues.
as for the "kick" of Grom. if an admin sees something that they deem to be inappropriate they do have the authority to kick someone. and as i and others have already said. Grom was not banned. he was simply kicked off after a warning by an admin that he did not adhere to. so please quit it with the deemed guilty without proof nonsense. if an admin sees something, that is proof. and as i stated if you dont like how we run things, and if you dont think you have been treated fairly then please go find another server to play on.
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Post by Rookkii on Nov 16, 2014 9:17:50 GMT -5
and ill also chime in with this. if you have evidence of an admin or anyone for that matter abusing the rules or the rights that they have then please provide it here or come into the teamspeak and ask for an admin. i have no issues kicking or banning even an admin if they abuse there powers.
so just because you see someone on the player list with (GM) doesnt mean they are abusing powers. we are short on GM's and when the admins are on they tend to spend a lot of time dealing with issues all over the map.
i find it funny that you think that myself and the admins are helping the goblins but the fact is that they use the teamspeak and are social, we simply have gotten to know them. so when im on TS or in game i will hang out by their camp. we do not favor them other than simply having gotten to know them. maybe if you and others that scream admin abuse all the time would spend a bit more time in the TS and being a bit more social then none of these issues would arise.
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Post by Indica Green on Nov 18, 2014 11:39:19 GMT -5
Im guessing you are from the green village? Damn, soo popular you're still talking about us! Kidding of course. I don't know any redgismo. Ultimately we stopped playing on the server because after zalyr was banned we took a group vote and decided even if the ban was lifted it wasn't in our best interest to dedicate further time to the server. There were many contributing factors but the biggest one being we didn't like the community very much. A few people were great (jive, friez,) but the majority of people (longknife, gearson, grom) were just assholes, trolls, or griefers. Had I wanted to cause grief to the server I easily could have, so could have all the guys in our group ... but none of us did. Also at any point the banned member can just bypass the ban and continue to play on the server, we just didn't find this necessary. Being the internet you have to deal with all sorts of people and all sorts of dishonesty, and this game has no shortage of it. |
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